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	<title>Comments on: a musical snack, an esoteric tale, and an observation</title>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jon!
As usual, you have great recommendations of materials for whetting my intellect.
Now if I could only squeeze in time for them between 2 jobs! 
my advice: stay in school forever!
You would probably be one of the best "professional students" out there anyway  :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jon!<br />
As usual, you have great recommendations of materials for whetting my intellect.<br />
Now if I could only squeeze in time for them between 2 jobs!<br />
my advice: stay in school forever!<br />
You would probably be one of the best &#8220;professional students&#8221; out there anyway  <img src='http://www.davidcomeaux.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 00:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, 

this is a really good entry, especially the bit towards the end there about memory, technology, etc.   I really like these personal entries, but I know how hard they can be to write - sometimes I feel silly because I'm almost too reflective on this page....

@ Michelle:
as a fellow liberal artist, I can sympathize with your need (impulse?) to critique everything that comes your way.  I do the same thing, but I think that is the hallmark of a good arts education  - learning to think independently, not allowing any argument to go by unscrutinized.  After all, no idea, theory, or hypothesis is perfect, so I find that everyone can benefit from a thoughtful critique, provided it is constructive. 

I would argue, as I think you are, that writing itself is a kind of 'technology' that allows us to store information or build arguments that we'd otherwise  be unable to remember.  The kind of writing (or information storage) that Dave talks about in this posting is more, I think, about impression, rather than opinion:
&lt;blockquote&gt;"Opinion is over-valued. But it's easy to share opinions. To share impressions well you really have to be an artist."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hence, your point about Greek drama is well made - impressions/memories are often best "interfaced" through art, even if that art was made by someone else!  

Also, I think that all the digital files on my computer are a kind of art as well, created organically by my relationships, interests, etc.  
In fact, my computer is an extension of my memory - it helps me, like written words, to save things I could never hold in my head.  I don't think its a matter of "remember less" to "store more" on a machine, rather I remember more through my machines - they are an extension of myself.

A great book on these themes of technology, self, and memory is called &lt;i&gt;Natural Born Cyborgs&lt;/i&gt; by Andy Clark.  If this stuff interests you, I really recommend it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, </p>
<p>this is a really good entry, especially the bit towards the end there about memory, technology, etc.   I really like these personal entries, but I know how hard they can be to write - sometimes I feel silly because I&#8217;m almost too reflective on this page&#8230;.</p>
<p>@ Michelle:<br />
as a fellow liberal artist, I can sympathize with your need (impulse?) to critique everything that comes your way.  I do the same thing, but I think that is the hallmark of a good arts education  - learning to think independently, not allowing any argument to go by unscrutinized.  After all, no idea, theory, or hypothesis is perfect, so I find that everyone can benefit from a thoughtful critique, provided it is constructive. </p>
<p>I would argue, as I think you are, that writing itself is a kind of &#8216;technology&#8217; that allows us to store information or build arguments that we&#8217;d otherwise  be unable to remember.  The kind of writing (or information storage) that Dave talks about in this posting is more, I think, about impression, rather than opinion:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Opinion is over-valued. But it&#8217;s easy to share opinions. To share impressions well you really have to be an artist.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Hence, your point about Greek drama is well made - impressions/memories are often best &#8220;interfaced&#8221; through art, even if that art was made by someone else!  </p>
<p>Also, I think that all the digital files on my computer are a kind of art as well, created organically by my relationships, interests, etc.<br />
In fact, my computer is an extension of my memory - it helps me, like written words, to save things I could never hold in my head.  I don&#8217;t think its a matter of &#8220;remember less&#8221; to &#8220;store more&#8221; on a machine, rather I remember more through my machines - they are an extension of myself.</p>
<p>A great book on these themes of technology, self, and memory is called <i>Natural Born Cyborgs</i> by Andy Clark.  If this stuff interests you, I really recommend it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 20:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I just say:
Although technology is amazing because it spawned from the human mind alone, there were other ways of remebering those emotions and sights and sounds you speak of.
Let's go back to ancient Greece. Why did I have to study those Greek plays time after time in highschool and college? Because it prooves that you can capture what happened a long time ago because of story-telling and the written word. Reading their stories can be as vivid in your mind as the digital camera's images. The plays portray the sights and sounds and smells and feelings of their heroes. 
So, I guess my liberal arts education really did pay off, if only to post a comment that no one reads on David's blog!!! ha, I knew $80,000 might come in handy somewhere!
So, if you really want to remember the 'details of events clearly,' yes, your blog is a form of the written word that will bring you back and help you remember.
I think we spend so much time having to remember passwords, usernames, and pin numbers today that without the ditigal cameras, we would only hold enough memory in our brain for 'security purposes' so that no one can steal our thoughts (thoughts which consist of our identity: social security, pin numbers, etc)
Does the modern world seem a bit more absurd to you now?
that was my whole point.
By the way, the other use of my liberal arts education would be applied to the fact that I argue just about everything. (something my friends and family can vouch for) I guess I wrote so many essays with points of view and arguments that it's pure habit now. hmmmmmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I just say:<br />
Although technology is amazing because it spawned from the human mind alone, there were other ways of remebering those emotions and sights and sounds you speak of.<br />
Let&#8217;s go back to ancient Greece. Why did I have to study those Greek plays time after time in highschool and college? Because it prooves that you can capture what happened a long time ago because of story-telling and the written word. Reading their stories can be as vivid in your mind as the digital camera&#8217;s images. The plays portray the sights and sounds and smells and feelings of their heroes.<br />
So, I guess my liberal arts education really did pay off, if only to post a comment that no one reads on David&#8217;s blog!!! ha, I knew $80,000 might come in handy somewhere!<br />
So, if you really want to remember the &#8216;details of events clearly,&#8217; yes, your blog is a form of the written word that will bring you back and help you remember.<br />
I think we spend so much time having to remember passwords, usernames, and pin numbers today that without the ditigal cameras, we would only hold enough memory in our brain for &#8217;security purposes&#8217; so that no one can steal our thoughts (thoughts which consist of our identity: social security, pin numbers, etc)<br />
Does the modern world seem a bit more absurd to you now?<br />
that was my whole point.<br />
By the way, the other use of my liberal arts education would be applied to the fact that I argue just about everything. (something my friends and family can vouch for) I guess I wrote so many essays with points of view and arguments that it&#8217;s pure habit now. hmmmmmm</p>
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		<title>By: des</title>
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		<dc:creator>des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 17:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, besides the boring stuff, your post got me to thinking about my blog.  I've never really thought of it as self-preservation, more of an of-the-moment gratification tool.  But now that you've introduced this idea, I think I shall try harder to update more often and not stop mid-post production because I've got "more important" things to do.  After all, some of these posts I may see as pretty important when I can no longer remember the details of the events too clearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, besides the boring stuff, your post got me to thinking about my blog.  I&#8217;ve never really thought of it as self-preservation, more of an of-the-moment gratification tool.  But now that you&#8217;ve introduced this idea, I think I shall try harder to update more often and not stop mid-post production because I&#8217;ve got &#8220;more important&#8221; things to do.  After all, some of these posts I may see as pretty important when I can no longer remember the details of the events too clearly.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's true that I have many dozens of backup discs in the closet. I tried to organize them into Photos (that's one stack), music, software, data, stuff like that. Hope you recover yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true that I have many dozens of backup discs in the closet. I tried to organize them into Photos (that&#8217;s one stack), music, software, data, stuff like that. Hope you recover yours.</p>
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